response to an article in the school paper
I"m thinking about sending this in to the sojourn, any thoughts you have would be nice ...
I like America. I like the Church. I like the American Church. There, I’ve said it. I am stepping out of the closet and saying that I appreciate Christianity in its current form in America. I realize this is not the chic position to take, and I realize this makes me less “post-modern” and therefore less “relevant” to society, but I am “emerging” with my point nonetheless.
I have become tired hearing how horrid the church in America is. I have become weary of everyone feeling as if they are the next prophet, spewing woes to the American church. “Woe to you American church,” they say, “You have money and are lazy. You cannot preach a Gospel of Joy or one of blessings from God. God wants us to be persecuted and miserable.”
Joel Osteen has become the most recent target. Your Best Life Now has sold a ridiculous amount of books on the concept that God wants you to be joyful and happy right now. And Christians go bezerk? Never mind the Wesleyan position has traditionally been that God does want you to have his best for you now. Never mind that Jesus wanted to bring the Kingdom of Heaven to Earth. “Nah,” would be the response “not like it is here in Babylon a.k.a. America.”
Don’t get me wrong; I realize the church has flaws. It is made of people, and people are fallen. However, whether we want to admit it or not, the church is the body of Christ. America church included. Unless, (in the words of the illustrious Dr. Keith Drury) we want a beheaded Jesus, we need to work within that church.
We have romanticized this concept of persecution here in America. We talk as if that is the only way to form “true Christians.” We hold up signs saying, “The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.” This may or may not be true; either way we must fertilized the ground live bodies spreading The Gospel. Without a “state church” we would not have the bible in the form we have it. Whether we want to admit it or not, history is written by the winners, and if a successful church was never in place, I am not sure we would have Christianity at all. (I know God would have found a way, but to play the God card here means you have to say he can do it however he wants, and who are we to say it has to use persecution and not success.)
I do not have all the answers, I am aware of that. In addition, you may feel that I, as a person going into ministry here in America, am much like a turkey voting against thanksgiving. You are probably correct. Nevertheless, I am sick of watching Christians shoot at other Christian’s who are doing their best to bring as many to Jesus as possible. We are all fighting the same battle; let’s focus on the enemy and not on each other.
5 Comments:
You said "I am sick of watching Christians shoot at other Christian’s who are doing their best to bring as many to Jesus as possible."
Are people like Joel Osteen bringing people to the same Jesus that ministry majors from IWU are? Yes. Are they bringing them for the same reason? Now that is the real question.
Osteen has undoubtedly created a ministry that looks successful on all accounts. Church attendence for places like Lakewood is up, income is up, and more people seem to be smiling. From all accounts, it looks like the Osteenites have indeed captured the "joy of the Lord" that can easily be overlooked in our puritanical holiness ethical practices and lifestyles.
However, when Osteen completely disgregards the issue sin, corruptibility, attonement, and the cross, can we be completely comfortable with that. People will see Jesus as "financial consultant" but not as "Christ born, crucified, and risen...for me and my sins." Herein lies the problem.
While Osteenites promote a Christianity full of positivity and optimism, they do so without going through the proper channels. As John Wesley said, you cannot be happy unless you are holy. And to be holy you must have a firm trust in Jesus as your justification and sanctification. I'm not sure Osteenites communicate this concept well (although I'm not sure those of us more conservative evangelicals do either).
We can have a flourishing Christianity that is joyful and devoid of martyrdom in some cases. However, we cannot have a Christianity robbed of sacrifice and care of our neighbors. Happiness is not excluded in sacrifice, rather, I would contend it is exponentially increased when done with the right spirit.
By Kevin Wright, at 9:56 AM
I concur with Kevin. Does high church attendance and financial success indicate the blessings of God? Does a congregation that totes smiles indicate the joy of Christ? I am not offended that Osteen preaches that God wants us to be happy. I disagree with much of what he believes makes us happy.
You said, "Never mind that Jesus wanted to bring the Kingdom of Heaven to Earth." Without debating what actually 'the kingdom of Heaven' means my question would be is "our best life now" indicative that the kingdom has come? You seem to imply in your post that the coming of the kingdom of heaven is characterized by joy and happiness.
I am not disagreeing with this necessarily, but I do believe it is an incomplete picture. And that is where I find my main tension with the preaching of a person like Osteen. It is not that he preaches damnable doctrine (or doctrine at all for that matter), or that he is the tool of the devil, rather it is that he is preaching portions of the Truth and deliberately pushing aside equally important matters of Truth. If we don't preach about sin, corruptibility, the cross, etc. how can we ever understand what salvation even means? Paul was not ashamed of the cross, when a preacher appears to mitigate it red flags fly up for me.
The early Church was very concerned with what one actually believed. I share that concern today. The catechismal and creedal affirmations were a prerequisite to acceptance of one into the larger Church body. If we preach not the Gospel in its entirety we preach not the Gospel. Not that we must preach all things at all times. But I am concerned with the message that Osteenites have received. While joy and happiness are characteristic of the reception of the Gospel they are also characteristic of acceptance of what we think the Gospel is. I think it's a fine line that Osteen walks.
By Ben Robinson, at 12:51 PM
Osteen's position I think is not the point that I have a problem with. I struggle with Christians who are looking at those who have been persecuted and glorifying their position. Yes Osteen has some misguided views, but so did Augustine, and we celibrate the overall good that he brought about. Nobody's perfect and nobody has it all togeather, we're just here punching the ball foward one yard at a time. Yes I disagree with some of the theology that this man is advocating, but I don't agree with many of the larger Christian Schools out their in their theology, but I must not discredit their impact on the Christian world. Lets instead of criticizing our American culture for it's faults, lets encourage it and help it to develop towards the place it should be. Lets not abandon it and let it die out because we're looking for a perfect church.
By dan, at 1:43 PM
I am new at this blog thing.
But I am not new at thinking.
Your thoughts about Joel Osteen and his style of ministy were very thought provoking.
I read Mr. Wrights response and then went on to read his own Satire I am leaving the Wesleyan church I bevieve He really agrees
with you but is just testing the waters.
Way to take a stand A.D.
By Anonymous, at 8:00 AM
Anonymous: You must have meant believe not bevieve
Could we agree that God in his sovereignty could, Maybe, Just Maybe, Use Joel Osteen.
Could we be a little more Graceful toward Joel and other christian leaders.
Well I am preaching to the choir
You were supportive of Joel.
By Anonymous, at 8:24 AM
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